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MG MGB Technical - anther one bites the dust

now this must be a rare model now or was

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MGB-1-5-AUTO-GOOD-CONDITION-BREAKING-FOR-SPARES_W0QQitemZ320438258492QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM?hash=item4a9b9bcb3c
s truman

What a bunch of a$$-holes they are. Guess they figure they'll get more for the parts than an outright sale. :-(





Rick Stevens

Rick,

What you don't understand is they have NO choice - the car has been traded in against a new one and the government pay £1000 and the dealer another £1000 towards the cost of the new car. The scheme is intended to take old cars off the road - even if they are usable and in good condition!
Chris at Octarine Services

This scrappage scheme is terrible. Lots of perfectly good, but low value, cars are being cubed supposedly to help the motor industry. And you can't trade in an old worn out car - it must be roadworthy. Which car company has made the most sales as a result of the scheme? Hyundai. How does that help us in the UK? (Except for a few dealers). As Chris says, once an old car has been traded in and the money paid out, the car must be scrapped by law. Stupid.
Mike Howlett

Sort of like the US 'Cars for Clunkers' program. Up to a $4000 gov't rebate (i.e. tax dollars) for a registered 10 to 25(?) year old car in running condition. The idea was to take older, less safer, more polluting, and lower mpg cars off the road and replace them with more modern, fuel efficient vehicles. Over half the replacement cars sold were Japanese... Older classics - like MGs, Triumphs, etc. were not eligible due to their age.

Cheers,

Glen
G. D. Phillips

At least they put a maximum age limit on that - there's no such limit in the UK's ill-thought out scheme. I've heard of cars having hundreds of pounds spent on brand new parts to get through an MOT, only to be driven straight to a dealer for scrappage as the pre-MOT value plus cost of repairs was less than the scrappage allowance! As Mike says, the cars people are scrapping for are at the very bottom end of the market - I'd be interested in seeing how many of these are still on the road and servicable in 10 years time...

Cheers,
Tim
T Jenner

Check the link, some good cars were scrapped.

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2009/09/25/an-auto-tragegy-cash-for-clunkers-junked-some-classic-cars/

J Mancone

In the US, that was one of the criticisms of the Cash for Clunkers program. If they had allowed these cars to be parted out and sold, they would have generated a lot more jobs. But the govt. insisted they all be scraped.

It is an outright shame to see this nice MGB parted out.
Bruce-C

Not being an auto dealer, and therefore not privvy to the ins and outs of the programs, I would think that if there were any valuable cars going for the cash for clunkers program, I as a dealer would pony up the $4500 trade in allowance and forget to file the papers. Then the car is mine to do with as I wish.
Mike Parker

Did they need a MoT to get on the scheme in the UK? That really is daft. I thought the whole idea was to get the (s)crap cars off the road!

Interesting link from dailyfinance above: http://jalopnik.com/5365954/ten-most-exotic-cars-destroyed-by-cash-for-clunkers/gallery/?selectedImage=10 I can't believe some of those cars were really scrapped. Except for the Excalibur of course.

Does anyone know if they're allowed to sell part of the shell when it's been stripped?
Mike Standring

Cars without an MOT (that should have one) can't be used on the road anyway so scrapping them would achieve nothing - in terms of reduction of emissions at least, as the result would simply put more cars on the road. Which is sort of what happens when someone puts a SORN'd car back on the road purely to scrap it.

I'm surprised they can get away with just scrapping the shell.
Paul Hunt

i suppose its a way of recycling the used parts but by making sure the shell is scraped they know its not going to go back on the road.

part of the scheme is to lower over all prolusion from older cars.

but i wouldn't mind betting there's a lot more prolusion produced from building a new car.
s truman

Yes! All that MGB will be recycled! I bet we'll be meeting those parts at autojumbles and swapmeets next year.

The new car that replaces it will not only have cost loads of pollution to produce it, it will be a pain in the neck to scrap in ten years time. There'll be a pile of hard to recycle stuff like plastics from the interior, rare metals from the catalytic converter and strange stuff from all the electronics, not to mention the explosives from the airbag.

(Though if that engine bay picture is anything to go by, the shell had had it anyway....)
Mike Standring

Ironic that it's not the body that causes pollution!

Any chrome bumper MGB, even a GT, has got to be pretty ratty to be worth scrapping.

I did read (but it was probably written by Clarkson) that cradle to grave cars like the Lexus and Prius hybrids had a bigger ecological footprint than a Range Rover Sport.
Paul Hunt

How often is a classic car driven that it needs to be taken off the road and crushed in order to save the enviroment. In England as in America these cash for clunkers programs have little or nothing to do with enviorment or creating jobs or saving the motor industry. More polution is created by having to build a car to replace one that is destroyed before its time. Debt is funding these programs which taxpayers will be responsible for. If a £1000 or $4000 makes the difference in a sale why not reduce taxes and the regulations motor industry by the equivelant of these rebates. I think they like to control the choices people make.
Charles O'Brien

The supreme irony is that in today's Sunday Times a UK Government 'think tank' is proposing that a £3300 pollution levy be applied to the sale of all new vehicles! "Think tank my ar*e", as Ricky Tomlinson might say http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKMJDP-G4gU
Paul Hunt

It must be pretty ratty not to be worth more than £2k...? Looks like a recent repray, but if the underside is as bad as the engine bay... Although a 1.5 Auto is indeed rare, if not unique!

Cheaper cars (eg Hyundai) are going to be more popular under scrappage as if, presumably, you had enough money to buy a decent car then you wouldn't be running around in a banger anyway???

You can trade a worn-out car... it doesn't need to have a current MOT, the MOT can have expired up to 14 days before you order a new car. Hence there is no need to repair a car that fails the MOT, you can put it in for scrappage providing that it had an MOT prior to the fail. The FAQa on the scrappage website say that SORN cars, by definition, cannot be 'taken off the road' through scrappage and that they would need to have an MOT to qualify.

N
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