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MG MGB Technical - Side window installation

After 3 frustrating hours of trying to install the side windows I realize I need help. What is the proper sequence? Should the vent windows be firmly in place? What about the winding mechanism? Should it be bolted in? Could somone post the step by step instructions? After trying please make it as simple as possible and not like the manuals that say do the reverse of taking it out, which was 3 years ago. Thanks for your help.
Dave
D Enghauser

I posted a thread "re-installing glass" I think. Its in archives. Yuo are right that this is the automotive equivalent of a crossword puzzle
Stan Best

Dave

I could not find Stan's link in the archives but I am not a good searcher.

I just got done doing this.

1/4 light top bolts tight with the bottom bracket of the 1/4 light channel (wing window) loose. Bolts for winder in but not tight. Long channel by door latch removed.

Two attaching studs (on the channel shaped arm) on the mechanism should be above pivot. Pivot is not bolted in.

Slide the glass into the door. In the center of the metal channel on the bottom of the glass there is a cutout that the stud closest to the engine goes into first. Takes a little fiddling of the lifting mechanism and window to get it in. Once in, move the glass towards the engine and the other stud should slide into the window from the door latch side. Once it is in, start the bolts for the pivot. They go in the upper set of 4 holes. Tighten these and the winder bolts.

Put in the channel by the door latch and get the glass into both channels. Tighten the top screw for the channel. For my GT, this was all the way towards the engine

Roll the window up and down to make sure it travels in the channels. If it does not go down enough, you have the pivot upside down and you need to unbolt it and turn it over.

Bottom of both the channels can be moved in or out. I start with them in the middle.

You can fine tune the glide of the window by moving the pivot up or down slightly, and by adjusting the door latch top channel or the bottom of the channels.

There is also a stop between the winder and the pivot. This can be adjusted to keep the top of the glass at the edge of the 1/4 light. It is a pin that the raising mechanism hits against.
Bruce-C

Dave
This might help
http://www.mgexperience.net/article/door-glass-install.html

Kent
DK McNeill

Thanks for the prompt responses. With the vent window in and trying to slide the glass in it is approx. 1/4 of an inch too long. It hits on the back of the door at the top. I had the doors reskinned so I looked at trying to file down the slots the vent window fits in to slide it forward but it appears the the front of the vent can only slide a small amount forward because of the two bolts that go in the front edge.
Any ideas?
Thanks

D Enghauser

http://www2.mgcars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&access=&mode=archiveth&subject=71&subjectar=71&thread=200604180845533494
Found it!
Stan Best

Dave

Don't slide it in the channels until you get it attached to the lifting mechanism. You should be able to get the glass into the door frame by going on the inside of the vent with the glass.

Once attached to the lifting mechanism, the angle will adjust to the channels. Put the glass in the vent channel and then slide the other channel into the door frame.
Bruce-C

Thanks for your responses. Fortunately I did not have time to work on the window this week, because I notice that the drivers side window sits back from the windshield a good bit more that the passenger side,probably enough that the rubber seal would not fit tightly from the windscreen to the side window. If I grind out the holes to slide it forward the piece that the 2 bolts from the edge at the front go into will hit too soon. It appears that there are spacers that are riveted to the side widow that can be removed to allow the side window to slide forward more. Is this correct?
D Enghauser

If the 1/4-light is correctly set in the door and the door in the opening then maybe it is that side of the screen that is too far forwards.

Don't have the side windows and screen adjusted so that the rubber seal is *compressed* with the doors shut, that is too tight, it should only just be touching, and all the way up at that. If it presss too hard the scuttle shake that does exist on the MGB (which isn't much) will be transmitted into the 1/4-light frame and from there into the door skin and is one of the causes of the 'crack of doom'. There should also be a gap between the side of the 1/4-light frame and the side of the screen upright to stop transmission of scuttle shake. You may like to have a look at http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/wn_bodyframe.htm and click on 'Doors'.

Paul Hunt

This is one of those days I wonder why I am doing this project as another thread discusses. The passenger side is too tight to the windscreen so I guess if I lossen the windscreen bolts I can slide the windscreen a bit forward and hold it at a better angle while someone tightens the bolts? That should slide the drivers side back a bit. I reviewed pages of bee and vee for his discussion as well. How much movement can I expect to adjust the w/s? Thanks, Dave
D Enghauser

You won't get much movement on the screen Dave as you will only have the clearance in the bolts to play with. I think you are going to have to fit the 1/4 lights better on the doors perhaps by filing the slots etc until they are comfortable with the screen frame. If your side glass fouls the door at the rear you have an error in the reskinning process and will have to make modifications at the rear in order to accommosate the glass. This should not be too difficult though and should be possible by careful use of a tyre lever and hammer without causing any paintwork damage other than to the frame.
Iain MacKintosh

Having had my screen out three times on various occasions I can say with some certainty that there is a lot of tilt movement and quite a bit of fore and aft movement of the screen relative to the body when all the bolts are in.
Paul Hunt

This thread was discussed between 08/03/2009 and 15/03/2009

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