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MG MGF Technical - 4-2-1 How do you get it in!!

Well it was dry today (amazingly) so I thought I would install my new 4-2-1 (piper) manifold that I bought from mike at Silverstone.

The Lambda sensor was fun to get out, but a blow torch at some grunt soon sorted that.

So I tried to fit the new 4-2-1, but I couldn’t fit it in! It looks like I should need to install it from the bottom of the car (I've tried all sorts of ways from the top) but it keeps fowling the subframe. I only need a couple more millimeters and I’ve got it in…….

Has anyone had any problems installing one of these?? Do I need to remove anything else from the car? Maybe Alternator or oil filter? It’s a 97 mpi.

Thanks in advance!

Chris


Chris Glen

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Thread: help how to remove rear lower engine steady bolt

Will Munns

Hi Chris
I and my brother did the job this week and as i wrote it in my thread (thank you guys again) you need to remove the big bolt who is under the engine just beside the oil filter, you have four bolts who are fixed on the base of the engine (driver side) and just after you have one big bolt so you remove this one and from the above you push hardly on the engine to turn the engine at the maximum, i blocked the position with a piece of wood (it's better to be two persons, one under the car and one who is pushing on the engine) and you need to have the car really high because you need to have some space for the manifold, even like this you do not have a lot of space to pass the manifold between the sub frame and the engine but at the end it works, some pieces of metal are welded on the manifold and they block a bit, i don't know why they are here because at the end you don't fix anything on them (it was the case for me, tell me if you have something there), maybe it's for the lotus elise. also you said that you could remove the old lambda sensor, it's great but the problem is the length of the cable, for me i bought a new one (bosch lsh 24, normally you need to change the sensor every 100.00 kms) and i reused the connector from the old one (the new one wasn't for my car) and with this the cable was just long enough, you have to pass the cable by the rear of the engine.
i also thought that you need to remove the oil filter or alternator but you do not need to do it.
hope it will be useful for you, if not send me an email and i will try to help you (even by phone).
regards
PAD Pascandrea

Hi Pad, how comfortable was your brother underneath the car when you were wiggling the engine? I can imagine, if the car is on axle stands, being underneath there is not for the faint hearted *LOL*
cheers
david
David Peters

That explains it!

Ive put my old manifold etc back on the car for the time being as I use my car during the week.

Does anyone have a picture/drawing of what this steady bolt looks like as the car is back on the ground now.

Is it the lower engine mount bracket that I have taken off before to swap my clutch?

If so can you send it to chrisjglen@tiscali.co.uk

When im installing it this next time, i think i will take some photos and write a guide and post it over to Tim for FastForward

Thank you!

Chris
Chris Glen

Hi Chris
It-s the bolt 15 in the MG Cars MGF - MG TF Engine & Mountings Engine Mountings from Dieter-s web page.
Writing a guide can be a good idea but the best would be if the sellers of manifolds could do an effort to his customers, doing instructions with pictures is not a big deal.
regards

PAD Pascandrea

Thanks

I shall give it a go this weekend.
Chris Glen

I'm sure when I fitted mine I did not touch the engine mounting bolt. But I do remember taking off the oil filter (after draining the oil) and feeding the manifold up from underneath. Don't know if it makes any difference but I think mine was a Janspeed. I also removed the back box and CAT to give more working room.

Steve
Steve Ratledge

Mine was the same as Steve, but I had to cut off one of the heat-shield mounting bolts. Which caused no real problem as I had no shield to mount to it just the two either side.

A.
AndrewMc

Oh one thing, make sure you get the right manifold gasket. I ended up having to get the unipart one and it was too thin. The then MGR one is about twice as thick.

A.
AndrewMc

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