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MG MGF Technical - jacking points
| Can anyone tell me where I can safely use my trolley jack under a 96 F, any piccies would be greatly appreciated as naming parts would only be useful if I was really clever and knew what they were called and I'm not. Thanks in advance John |
| John |
| John The trolley jack point are inverted 'U' brackets that you can see in the middle of the car at the front and the back - I use these workshop manual reccomended points with a problem. Ted |
| Ted Newman |
| Doh WITHOUT a problem.... Ted |
| Ted Newman |
| John - I'm one of those IT people who cannot be bothered with setting up their own website to post piccies on (especially since my ISP went bust and I lost it). However I have emailed you the 2 relevant pages from the Workshop Manual. |
| JohnP |
| <<I use these workshop manual reccomended points with a problem.>> i have used these WITH a problem. problem i had with trolley jack, (as oppose to the jack supplied) was that as i was jacking the car up on an un-even surface the trolley jack, didn't roll as it should. This resulted in a slight outward force, and bent my jacking points. Be careful. I would suggest if you are using a trolley jack, to try and jack it up under the sub-frame. (not the easiest thing to do on a lowered F.) |
| paul weatherill |
| I confess that my garage has a nice level and smooth floor so I have had no problems with the Official Rover Jacking Points as stated in the workshop manual. I have also used the sub-frame BUT as Paul says this can be difficult to get a trolley jack under until one has lifted the car on the Official Jacking Point as stated in the workshop manual. Ted |
| Ted Newman |
| Hello, don't know what a "trolley jack" is. So, I have no idea whether this picture http://home.planet.nl/~vdbroek/mgf/111-1110_img.jpg is any useful. It's the way the guy at my local Profile Tyre Centre jacked my car up. Robbert. |
| Robbert |
| That shows two trolley jacks! My tyre man just used one in the middle. Ted |
| Ted Newman |
| I use a trolley jack under the normal jacking points and then put an axle stand under the sub-frame. Never trust a jack except for changing a wheel in an emergency and axle stands are very cheap. |
| Brian |
| trolly jack... I bought a small one at a Halfords like shop. Small cause a bigger makes almost troubles to get it under the already suggested U-shape brackets at the subframes. http://www.mgfcar.de/auspuff/heben.jpg (picture shows my very first DIY works at the MGF. 1998 or what.) I drive the car now on 3cm thick wooden plints before I get the trolly jack under the lowered car. If the non standard jack gets used at the normal jacking points, then take care that the metal lead at the sills don't get bent. They are also required as water drain holes. HTH Dieter |
| Dieter Koennecke |
| I second Brian's comment - never use just a trolley jack. Matters not whether you're going under the car, if it sinks at a critical point you can do serious damage. Question is, where do you put the axle stands? (other than the axles) N837 OGF |
| Hugh |
| Hugh Sorry mate but that is load of.... Every garage uses trolley jacks, I was trained to use trolley jacks when do my aprenticeship in the RAF - and believe you me they are safety mad - what else will you use. I agree only use the jack to lift the car THEN put stands under it BUT there is absolutely nothing wrong in using a trolley jack IT IS THE INDUSTRY STANDARD method when not using pits, hoists, lifts etc. Ted |
| Ted Newman |
| Ted, I read it like that as well, but re-reading carefully... >I second Brian's comment - never use _just_ a trolley jack. I thought he was mad before I finally realized what he had _really_ said |
| Will Munns |
| I am sorry Will/Hugh but what do use with the trolly jack to lift the car? That is what the thread is about - what you do with the car after it is up is another matter and IF that is what Hugh meant - then I am sorry BUT it was not clear. Ted |
| Ted Newman |
| My (banker) neighbour tried to change a wheel on a visitor's Range Rover Discovery using the jack from his wife's car and when parked on our gravelled lane. It took most of the morning to get it raised high enough to fit the wheel after the jack collapsed. |
| Brian |
| Brian Is your neighbour really a banker or was that a toping error John |
| John |
| Maybe both! |
| Brian |
| I stand by my original statement. However, for clarity I'm happy to add 'for anything other than lifting the car in order to put axle stands under it before commencing work'. Phew. I should have been a lawyer. N837 OGF |
| Hugh |
| Hugh As I said I am sorry that I misread your posting - I was still seeing it in the light of the original question - where to place the trolley jack - and YES always use secure supports - the jack is just for lifting. Ted |
| Ted Newman |
This thread was discussed between 02/07/2002 and 04/07/2002
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