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MG MGF Technical - lamp
| hi all driving home last night put my lights on as it goes one side was lit up on the dashboadthe other side wasnt.notice that at the the top one side was dim can i get bulbs from halfords..is there a bulb at the back off the board or on top it was really annoying.. darren also when i put the lights on there is a whistling from the back off the car when lights of its ok is that power going to the back..... thanks |
| darren jeffery |
| would anyone out there help me is there bulbs at the back off the dash for illunmination off the dashboard anyone got an codes for me one sides working the other is not... is rob there or scarlet please help |
| darren jeffery |
| Hi Darren, check out Dieter's website for the wiring colour codes and diagrams (http://www.mgfcar.de/) What's the problem - a bulb gone? Not sure what you mean by "it goes one side was lit up on the dashboadthe other side wasnt." Are we talking about the main instrument cluster? Unlit speedo/rev counter? |
| Rob Bell |
| hi rob how are u yes it looks like the bulb its on the side off speedo where the hand brake light is as i said before put the light on last night leaving work the rev counter side was ok but the other side isnt no light whatsoever .... on top of the dash there are lights one side looks dimmer would u have the codes for the bulbs once again they look like little rectangles ... darren thanks mate |
| darren jeffery |
| yep its the unit speedo cluster side that has know light now |
| darren jeffery |
| Two types of lighting on the dash, front lighting and rear. Not quite sure which one you've lost from the description - but you can probably work it out from what you are seeing. The 'front' lighting unit is mounted just above the instrument binnacle. If you have a look on Dieter's on line EPC, you can see an exploded diagram that explains thing better than a 1000 words: http://www.mgfcar.de/epc/1783.htm You can see the component in question labelled as '16'. However, it is just one bulb (or appears that way) so doesn't explain your one-sided dimness? I suspect that there is more bulbs involved than are being shown! The back lighting is for the odometer and trip (bulb labelled '18') - so that is not likely to be it either... Hmm. Perhaps I am missing something. Some additional pictures can be found on Andy's http://www.sfforever.co.uk/ site, and also here: http://www.mgcars.org.uk/carclub/mgfregister/temp/instruments/instrument_lighting.htm |
| Rob Bell |
| thanks rob u are a top man looking forward to mgfday if i have any more troubles i get back to sorry for going on... darren jeffery mk |
| darren jeffery |
| hi rob there is no dimmness there is nothing complete black one side gold on black would that be no 13 bulb on the www.mgfcar.de epc then darren |
| darren jeffery |
| its the rear speedo lighting thats gone what bulb would i have to get then darren sorry for asking stupid questions |
| darren jeffery |
| Looks like bulb 13 (lucky for some) is the one you need to get Darren. The bad news is that you need to disassemble the instrument pack to gain access to it. Not hard, but more complication than perhaps you might have wanted... |
| Rob Bell |
| tell me about it do they store them from halfords would it wise for me to get a binnicle bulb 2... would u have the codes or should i dismantle and take it will they be able to match it up... darren |
| darren jeffery |
| New to this thread (Hi Darren and Rob) :-) OK, if it is the speedo bulb that is gone than you do not need to dismantle the entire instrument cluster to change the bulb, but you do need to be able to get to the back of it and this means removing the cluster from the dash, here's how... ----------- Open the bonnet and remove the shroud panel. Find the joint in the speedo cable and disconnect it. Using a Philips head screwdriver (a dumpy helps) undo the 4 screws that retain the binnacle cowl, unclip the multiplug for the dimmer switch (and the mirrors too if you have 'leccy ones) - remove cowl. You may need to unclip the top of the steering collumn cowl (it just unclips) too to give you access. Again using the Philips screwdriver, remove the four retaining screws for the instrument cluster. Pull the cluster out of the binnacle - note if it is tight it's due to the speedo cable, feed the cable into the dash a little from under the bonnet. Reach behind the cluster and unplug the three multiplugs and the speedo cable. Remove cluster. ----------- Now, with the cluster out, turn it over and look at the back of it. You will find there are a lot of bulbs in holders in the back of the cluster - see this photo: >> http://www.sfforever.co.uk/pictures/mainpage_29/id833.jpg << The bulb holders correspond with the warning lights in the cluster around the sides and also for the milometer illumination. You should be able to simply find the bulb holder and twist it to release, now withdraw it from the cluster. Replace the bulb - job done. If it is the general ambient light that has gone, these are at the top of the cluster in the black section. Follow the wires on the top of the cluster to find the bulbs - replace as necessary. Can't tell you what the bulbs are sadly, but i can say that the ones at the top (i think from memory there are two of them) are smaller than the ones that plug in the back. This is because i have sheathed mine with red sleeves to change the colour of the illumination and i had to use different sized rubber sleeves to do the whole thing (in the end i removed the mileometer sleeve as it was too dark to read!) Hope this helps SF |
| Scarlet Fever |
| Andy, you forgot the Haynes manual 'refitting is a reversal of the removal procedure' statement! LOL Ralph |
| Ralph |
| hi scarlet did as you said i found where the bulb should have been but there is a hole but its covered.. do the dials light up on a on the speedo and rev counter i dont do on mine the binncle bulb had gone mgf 18i it has a gold surround on mine darren in mk will you be at gaydon.. |
| darren jeffery |
| Darren, can you post or email a picture of the dash with its failed illumination? Might be easier to understand the problem better. |
| Rob Bell |
| hi rob this is an on going saga my dash is the my2000/mk2 dash not the mk1 darren |
| darren jeffery |
| :o) It is isn't it? Piccie would still be helpful |
| Rob Bell |
| Just to mention... I had the old "one side of the instruments lit up" gag on my MGF a few weeks back... days of having old TVs led me to give it a tidy bash on the top with my hand... ...it's been absolutely fine ever since ;-) Chris |
| Chris Tromans |
| hi cris i changed the binccle light on mine its now showing amber both sides now the dials all sorted now darren just one question on the back off the dash there is a holder its brown with no bulb in it with i think 2 wires going in i put a bulb in and the seat restraint showed green ish.. on the manual for the dash it has it down as a a rear dash ilumnation i am puzzled for the source.. did mg rover mgfs change the dash for the 2001 plate mines 51 darren jeffery mk |
| darren jeffery |
| Chris - ROFL - of course that'd work! Darren, good news - which bulb was it in the end? |
| Rob Bell |
| hi rob how are u firstly are looking forward to going to the mgf day gaydon??? and the bulb that blown was the binncle bulb the ones that u push and turn in if i remember it the 285 bulb from halfords .. thanks for the advice what would i do without this web page for the mg cheers scarlet.. also darren jeffery mk |
| darren jeffery |
| Definitely looking forward to MGF10 - I know what the planned talks are, and they're not going to be something anyone will want to miss! And that's not the only thing going on either... I have a feeling that the day is going to fly by and I'll still not get to see and do everything that's on offer... :o) New bulb from Halfrauds? Excellent. Funnily enough, my F's oil temp gauge bulb's just gone - hopefully will be able to buy a replacement there too! :o) |
| Rob Bell |
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