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MG MGF Technical - Supercharged MGF

I suppose this is either a pipe-dream for many people, or OTT for the remainder. However, does anybody have direct experience of fitting a supercharger to the MGF(the only one I know of is that supplied by Turbo Technics-the kit is priced £4950+VAT fitted).
TT's claimed figures are 215bhp, 0-60 5.5s for a supercharged MGF VVC. Are these figures reliable and, perhaps more importantly, is the engine modification reliable???
Steve Jones

Ask on the Lotus board, those chaps are far more adventorous than us ;-)
Will Munns

The power figures are pretty reliable, and the Lotus chaps reckon that the initial problems with the kit have now been ironed out.

There have been a handful of MGFs converted - but these people were sadly not BBS contributors. One of the cars I saw at Bruntingthorpe suffered the ignomony of fragmenting a cylinder... but other owners I've meet seemed pretty happy with their choice.
Rob Bell

I had my F supercharged by TT in sept 2000. It is absloutely georgeous and I would recommend it to anybody who can afford it. I have had no problems whatsoever. I bought the car wanting the performance of an elise but with modern comforts (there was not the choice there is today back then)

it is a lot of fun pulling away from those BMW drivers who think they should be able to pass you but can't even keep up.

Had it on the track and could easily outdrag a friend with an S3 (0-60 in 6.1s)
ngm

ngm

Is it true that you can't have aircon as well as the super?

Phil
Phil

>>Is it true that you can't have aircon as well as the super? <<

Sad, but true. The supercharger's compressor sits in the same place as the aircon compressor would do on a car so equipped.
Rob Bell

Ngm

Sounds VERY tempting...just a couple of questions..: Can the original transmission be retained or did you need to fit an uprated clutch, gearbox etc in addition to the parts in the TT kit to handle all the extra power being transmitted?
Is your F a 1.8i or a VVC?
How long did TT take to fit it and did they throw in a full Rolling Road tune and print-outs?
Steve Jones

true no air con and supercharger

orignal transmission clutch etc no problems

greenstuff pads on groved discs with SS braided hoses (work much better) lowered suspention but otherwise standard car

TT took 2 weeks exactly as promised, they will happily taxi you to and from the train station

power graphs and details on their website. Car fully tested but no graphs (shame)

I love the car and would do it again at the drop of a hat with the only exception they now offer a 230 and 260bph version...... (lot more money)

In june took a close friend for a "spin" he loves it and thought it better than anouther of our friends porshe boxter (can certainly out pace it with ease)
ngm

>> In june took a close friend for a "spin" he loves it and thought it better than anouther of our friends porshe boxter (can certainly out pace it with ease) <<

Ho hum <--- SF = Reminiscing :-)

Reminds me of the time the green SP Cheetah raced the Essex Roadsters (Essex Club MGF as it was then) on the M25 following a trip to Brands Hatch. The driver was VERY surprised to find a certain BRG MGF 1.8 MPi with yellow trim still behind him at a significant 3 figure sum. Multiple direct to head throttle bodies with a gas flowed head are IMO the way to go. Cheaper and produce a similar power output (200bhp plus). This particular BRG F was only the throttle bodies (plus Motobuild exhaust and Piper cams), he hadn't had the head work done yet and was already pushing out 180bhp plus. The supercharger is undoubtedly a superb bit of kit, it's just that for my money i would be happier with simpler technology to produce the same result.

SF

Scarlet Fever

Completely different modes of power delivery Andy. The supercharger is all torque - and IMO would make for a far superior day-to-day road car with awsome over taking ability.

Normally aspirated K-series putting out 200+ bhp are fairly common now - but they are somewhat more peaky in their delivery - fine for track days and fast road driving - but would be relatively lacklustre from slow engine speeds.

As usual, you pay your money, and you make your choice.
Rob Bell

The Nvember/december issue of "MG world will" show an article on an Australian Turbo´d *F*. 2 more months to go (more or less).
I can imagine that in Australia most *F*´s are factory equiped with A/C unit. I know when the sun is out top should be down...But ever been in traffic jams or long highway runs (>200mi) with top down and sun at 40°C. Then you´ll be crying for aircon!!
So this guy must have found a way of sorting out the problem.
Maybe he´s gone the "Mynheer" route


David.
david

David

A Supercharged engine requires a compressor that is engine driven and so does the aircon and unfortunately there is room only for one.

A Turbocharged engine uses the exhaust gas flow to drive the compressor so does not use the space that the engine driven unit uses - so aircon can be fitted.

The problem that a Turbo unit has is the extra heat that is generated in an already overheated area. But it is normally a much cheaper way of boosting airflow - once there is sufficient exhaust gas flow to drive the compressor.

Ted
Ted Newman

This thread was discussed between 11/09/2002 and 21/09/2002

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