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MG TD TF 1500 - Lift the dot peg

I'm re-conditioning a 54 T.F. having reached the point of fitting the side covers . To this end would need to acquire the details regarding the location of the lift the dot pegs . This info would be much appreciated. Thank-you John
J .R.C Cavey

I need pegs also, the ones that screw into wood! PJ
Paul S Jennings

John: The only lift the dots that are standard are the 5 behind the seat on the body. The others are based on what you want. That's because the factory cover only covered the boot area.

When you purchase the lift the dots for wood make sure the threads are long enough. I have seen some of them that are only 3/8". I would contact the suppliers and make sure that they supply you at least 1/2" but preferably 3/4" long ones.
Christopher Couper

Chris, The ones I need,(3), for the right door has to have a wood screw or sheet metal type screw as there's no way to get behind the door skin in that area to put a nut on. I know someone makes them as I've seen them before, but haven't a clue who. What is used for securing the top around the back? PJ
Paul S Jennings

Paul Contact me through my e-mail address. I most probably have what you are in need of. John
J .R.C Cavey

Paul;
I also have them if J.R.C does not.
I bought a package from Lift-the-dot rather than a few from Moss.


eeengineer-at-veriz0n-d0t-net

Jim B.
JA Benjamin

Paul Is this what your in need of. John

J .R.C Cavey

Hi PJ et al,
I know you don't have this kind of supplier in the "interior", but marine stores have lift the dot stuff. Places like West Marine, Defender, Jamestown Supply, etc., usually have them in screw in and straight threads , sometimes you have to by a pack of several. Canvas covers, etc., on boat use them.

Al
54 TF "Emma"
A W Parker

PJ,
The tops were fastened with upholstery tacks or staples,, but If I were to do a new top, I would use snaps along the back,, it makes it soooo much easier to get stuff in and out of the boot when the top is up,,,rather than trying to snake your body through the space above the door and get to the boot...

SPW
Steve Wincze

J.R.C. (and also Geoffrey), I have a jug full of wood screw base LTD posts from my old (could it really be 35 years ago) TR-4 days. About half are 1/4" posts and half are 1/2" posts. all have a 1/4" wood screw base. You are welcome to 5 or 6 of either or both. I also have the parts that go into the canvas/vinyl but not the $68 Moss tool for installing them.

Let me know if you want some.

Jud
jchapin3 at aol dot com
J K Chapin

Hello Jud. Your kind offer is indeed much appreciated . Although, I believe I have a sufficient amount to fulfill my requirements. Thank-you John
J .R.C Cavey

Somewhere I got some with much longer threaded bases. You might want to call around. I have some that are 3/4" and I use those on those two right at the top of the seat backs as my tonneau cover is always shrinking and pulling in on the sides at that location. Plus I have to wrench on it to get them loose. The little ones just tore out of the body.

Also free tip: For a nice look have the LTD studs chrome plated. They look much nicer than just stainless.
Christopher Couper

Hello Christopher. Your suggestion on the length of the threads re; 3/4 inch makes good sense. John
J .R.C Cavey

Fellas, thanks for all your help! I would like a longer thread though. The short threads would barely go into the wood through the sheet metal. Chris, did you get the 3/4 inch screw thread ones at a boat yard? That's probably where I saw them as I used to buy sail boat stuff quite a lot. PJ
Paul S Jennings

I found them with a 3/8 or 5/8 thread depth. Marine supplies for sail boats canvas fasteners. Only question I have to get answered is, is the thread shaft brass or steel? More than likely brass. PJ
Paul S Jennings

Don't recall where I got mine...(14 years ago) but I would ad that you may want to put small clear nylon washers on them to protect your paint. Worked for me. My paint was chipped under these when I first acquired the car.
David Sheward 55 TF1500 # 7427

Good idea Dave! Thanks. On my car, they had button snaps going around the back over the fuel tank for securing the top and they were a screw thread also. I was planing on using the same type button snaps there as they look nicer than the lift a dots. What do you think? PJ
Paul S Jennings

Definitely buttons around the back, John. LTDs will cause wear effects on the top material. Bud
Bud Krueger

"Button snaps" are on my bucket list. My installer used staples. A few years later several people on this BBS mentioned snaps. IMHO: Definitely the way to go as they are hidden by the "flap" across the back of the hood.

I know you are going very correct with your project with a lot of attention to detail, but one other mod I did that I will throw out there.

The interior panels on my car were a mess from having been bent back to access door hinges over the years. Also the screws securing the hood frame were very loose from being taken out and re-inserted.

Although not "correct" this has been a life saver.
IMHO: No matter how well your doors are fitted/adjusted at some point they will need to be adjusted! (Mine changed after sitting on jack stands whist re-building engine, and has done so again years later from hoisting an a 2 post lift.

http://www.ttalk.info/Sheward.htm

Click on the pic of Izzy and scroll down to "door hinge access".

David Sheward 55 TF1500 # 7427

I have an unopened bag of 100 pieces of the long and short threaded posts.
The threads on the long ones measure 9/16 under the hex.
They are brass screws.
The shorter ones are just shy of 3/8 and are cad plated.

Jim B.
JA Benjamin

Dave, did you make the small panel? If so, how did you do it? I like the idea of access to the hinge bolts. PJ
Paul S Jennings

Paul,
The aux panel was supplied by a company in Canada from my design. (was my supplier at the time for termination panels for tv trucks ...don't think he is still in business?...I can check.)
I'm sure I have the AutoCAD drawling around here somewhere if that would be a help, let me know and I'll try to find it. (dwg, file)
Looked a bit this morning and found a ruff sketch, but not the A/C file yet!
It has been somewhat "re-purposed" ...has switch for wipers now. I have lockable glove box covers and it was a pain to access the wiper knobs with them on.
More info if you need/want it.

David Sheward 55 TF1500 # 7427

Found it...

David Sheward 55 TF1500 # 7427

David, if you could send copies to me I'd be delighted to add them to the http://www.ttalk.info/Sheward.htm page. Bud
Bud Krueger

Done deal Bud...check your mail.
David Sheward 55 TF1500 # 7427

I have been trying for years to find out who actually manufactures the Lift-the-Dot products and have so far been unsuccessful, but I believe they originate from the UK.

In North America, they are distributed by Scoville who in turn, have a distribution channel.

Here's their web page on Lift-the-Dot fasteners http://www.dotfasteners.com/lift_the_dot.html. I believe they will custom make to your needs.

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.
Gordon A Clark

Here is my invoice from 10/17/12
They have a complete catalog on the website.

Jim B.

JA Benjamin

Got it, David. Hope to have it on Ttalk by the end of the day. Bud
Bud Krueger

It's awaiting David's blessing. Bud
Bud Krueger

See http://www.ttalk.info/ShewardAuxElecPanel.html for details on David's auxiliary panel. Bud
Bud Krueger

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