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MG TD TF 1500 - Radiator Brackets TF

The brackets that are soldered to the top tank of the radiator to secure the grille don't seem right on my car , the previous owner had the radiator serviced and I think the brackets have been bent.
Would anyone have a photo of the brackets so I can see how they are supposed to be, I presume they fit flush to the radiator then has a right angle turn at the top?
Thanks

George
G Mills

Pic No 1 Another to follow in a further posting


Jan T

J Targosz

And the second one



J Targosz

Don't know if these will help, but your welcome to them if they will. PJ



Paul S Jennings

Another shot,



Paul S Jennings

Your picture looks okay to me. I don't have a side shot to show the angle of the bracket which would reveal more.


Frank Cronin

pic 2

Frank Cronin

Thanks a lot for those pic's , it is the two brackets on the front of the radiator top tank that is of concern, in Franks last shot they seem to be at an angle,
regards

george
G Mills

George, they are on an angle and positioned from side to side to match the grill shell. If they don't match perfectly, a slight distortion of the shell might happen, thus the bonnet might not fit properly. PJ
Paul S Jennings

Thanks PJ that is exactly what is happening now I will have the problem of trying to get them into the correct position, without any measurements or distinct photos/ drawings showing measurements I feel this will be a difficult job for me.

regards

george
G Mills

George, have you tried installing the chrome grill? How does it fit?

The bracket is indeed bent forward but the top flange should be flat where the top of the grill is secured with phillip head style screws. (the tips of the screws should be blunted not pointed and cad plated)
Frank Cronin

G/day Frank, I have not tried to do that yet as I wanted to see how it went correctly first, before I removed the radiator and grille the bonnet hinge end (radiator end) was not secured in its location point, meaning you could just lift the bonnet up by lifting at the front and there was 1/2" gaps where the bonnet meets the side panels, the car has not been in an accident it is all a result of bad workmanship putting the grille and radiator back after a radiator clean out.
The old fella that had the car was too sick to even notice it.

Regards

george
G Mills

George, This problem of yours has had me really thinking. Does your grill shell set a half inch higher than normal? If there is a half inch gap between the bonnet and side panels, that would suggest the whole radiator, grill and all is setting too high. Difficult to visualize this without photos. If that's the case, is the radiator setting on the proper rubber spacers?

Such as,



Paul S Jennings

G/day Paul, yes there was about 1/2 inch gap between the bonnet and side panels , a little bit less on one side, the mounting rubbers look like they are the original type, 2 rubbers either side 2 with hole extension on them, so they locate in the cross member hole and the bottom 2 that locate over the top rubber hole extension and two washers either side one top one bottom, the bottom rubbers are marked NAK and are about 22mm wide x 6mm thick with a 13 mm hole top same size but have the extension that locates in the hole.
The radiator did not seem to be sitting high, but it was definitely not forward enough as the bonnet hinge end was not close enough to it to locate into the grille.
I suspect the brackets on the front of the radiator top tank may be out of their original alignment, bent too far back away from the top tank, I think those brackets should as they are fixed to the top tank and then run vertical to and close to the tank, they from what I have seen in pic's posted here the brackets also turn out somewhat but I cant judge just how much as the pic's were not that clear.

Regards

George
G Mills

Ok managed to get some pic's of my radiator and Grille
Do you see anything wrong with it.

G Mills

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G Mills

George, This bracket doesn't look right! It should be straight up, not bent forward as it appears. Do you have access to someones TF to look and take measurements? It would probably be worthwhile. PJ



Paul S Jennings

Thanks Paul for taking the time to look at my Photos, yes it does not look correct to me either, I think it should rise vertically up the side of the radiator tank then bend in at right angle, no unfortunately I do not have anyone with a TF that I could look at and compare.

Regards


george
G Mills

Paul the photo you marked showing the bracket, is the radiator frame you can see bolted on correctly with the extended section to the bumper side or front of the radiator.

thanks Mate

george
G Mills

Further to the saga of the miss fitting grille/ radiator, I think the main radiator bracket is fitted correctly but the two brackets on the face of the top tank are not placed right, the grille screws onto them so the positioning is important so I need to know the distance each end of the brackets are from the inner edge of the top tank, I say each end because the brackets are at an angle.
Photo to follow
G Mills

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G Mills

If I could get an accurate measurement from each corner of this bracket to the edge of the radiator tank that would be great bearing in mind that each edge would be different because of the angle of the bracket.
You confused ? Join the club my head is in a spin.

Regards

george

G Mills

George, I'll measure mine today and see if we can get the measurements you need. Bare with me, as I have two deeds on the honey do list that has to be done today, if you get my meaning. Grin. PJ
Paul S Jennings

Sure thing mate thank you once again for taking the time to help me and so far you have been a great help to an old fella that is floundering
G Mills

The grille mounting brackets in this photo do not seem to be in the correct position, they seem to be according to other photos I have seen too far out to the edge of the top tank.
Anyone have some measurements for me and maybe a photo of what holes are used on the grille to bolt up to these brackets.

Thanks


George
G Mills

Sorry Photo here

G Mills

George, hopefully I can measure the brackets today! I've been busy as a beaver this past week stripping undercoating off of everything! Now that's done, I have time to do other things. Will get back. PJ
Paul S Jennings

Thanks mate, didn't mean to put any pressure on thought someone else may tune in as well, it's just a bugger that there is no one close to me or even that I know with a MG of any description that I know.
Regards

george
G Mills

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