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MG TD TF 1500 - Shoe glue

Some time ago there was a discussion on glues, and the consensus was that a certain kind of glue for shoes was the best thing going. No luck searching the archives. Anyone remember the name of this glue.
Thanks. Larry
Larry Brown

I believe it is Shoe Goo but not sure where you want to use it on an MG
Bob
R Brown

In the carbs? 😃
Geoffrey M Baker

I use Gorilla Snot on my shoe!
David Sheward 55 TF1500 # 7427

Larry if your talking about the brake shoes the shop that relined my brake shoes used JB Weld, at least thats what the bill said.
Rich (TD 3983) Taylor

LARRY,
With shoes being relativly in expensive, why would you want to take a chance glueing them on as a DIY project??
SPW
Steve Wincze

Don't want to glue my shoes. The discussion about glues sometime ago was the a certain type of glue that was used on shoes was the best all round glue available, great for upholstery, leather, whatever. Just can't remember the name of it. Thanks.
Larry Brown

Larry,
I guess a clarification is in order,,, If in fact you are referring to "people" shoes,,, then the SHOE GOO is the best,,,
You can even inprint you own tread pattern!!!

SPW
Steve Wincze

I guess I should have better expressed myself.
Maybe "Barge" was the name of the glue?
Larry Brown

What's the best glue for gluing MG upholstery?
Geoffrey M Baker

Yes, Barge Cement is the toughest stuff on earth and well suited to upholstery panels. And no, it is not used to fix barges. That is simply the name of the company that makes it. Readily available from on of several ebay vendors.
Lew Palmer

Barge All Purpose Cement was recommended to me by a shoe repair shop. I have a pair of shoes where an insert on the tread came off. He told me that he would not do the repair, but told me to use this stuff.
It works great and has held where whatever the factory used did not.
BobbyG
Bobby Galvez

I just looked up Barge Cement on Amazon and came across this and a couple of similar comments...

Looks like new improved may be new but worse ?

Dave

'f you read the comments before November 2010 you will find glowing 5 star remarks. BARGE used to be the absolute best leather glue, as used by shoe repair shops across the country - it worked!
However, the new BARGE is about as good as ELMERS and due to the new formula, is now just another glue.
I am frantically trying to find any old formula still on shelves and stocking up while I can. The new stuff just doesn't work.'
D Moore

Like Steve, as new shoes are about the cheapest thing you can buy for our cars per wheel, $120.00 for all 4 wheels, if for no other reason than safety, I'll only put new ones on and throw the old ones in the trash. I would replace riveted linings, but not glued. PJ
Paul S Jennings

It seems that anything labeled "green" just doesn't work.

I just had a floor refinished and due to the VOC of the modified tung oil finish, I had to buy it in quarts instead of gallons. Now, I still needed the same amount so I bought 16 quarts instead of 4 gallons. It cost quite a bit more for the smaller containers. If I lived in another state I could buy gallons but the state legislature has been taken over by........

There is a low VOC version, available in gallons, but the word is that it just doesn't work.

Good luck finding the old version of shoe glue.
JE Carroll

Remember, there is heat to consider! Brake shoes and drums can get very hot and a glue must be able to take high heat. PJ
Paul S Jennings

I'm with Rich Taylor - use JB Weld or PC7 - both can take the heat and work well to bond new, dry linings to clean, properly prepared (roughed up and oil-free) shoes.
Kevin McLemore

Why is "Super Glue" such a hit and miss affair? I used it to stick the hidem banding on the panels in my TD and it worked really well. The straight bits were arrow straight, the curves uniform and I was able to cut and mitre the top corners of the door panels so there was no puckering. Since then I have tried to repeat my success but half of time it just doesn't stick. The glue just remains as a liquid smear. Also it goes solid in the bottle no matter how tight the stopper is screwed down. Has anyone got some advice?

Jan T
J Targosz

Larry wants to glue upholstery and leather, not brake shoes.
JE Carroll

Yes, I had heard that later formulations aren't as good as the original. This is probably due to restrictions on the level of VOCs in the original.
The original Barge Cement came in a red and yellow can with a screw top and integrated brush. If you know what you're looking for, there are still places that sell it. Just one example is http://www.leathercaresupply.com/servlet/the-1476/BARGE-All-dsh-Purpose-CEMENT-Rubber/Detail
Lew Palmer

Jan T: I have heard that storing left over super glue in the refrigerator preserves its shelf life.
John Quilter (TD8986)

For the glue enthusiast Welders is much like Shoe Glue but a little thinner and easier to work. Found at Lowes but you have to ask where to find it because it usually isn't with the other adhesives.
Dave
Dave Clark Arizona

The company still sells and distributes the original formulation in all sizes. Just order it on Amazon and you're good to go, remember it's the red and yellow one.
Geoffrey M Baker

Jan - "Why is "Super Glue" such a hit and miss affair?"
Super glue cures in the absence of air (thus the small amount of glue in the container). If air gets to the glue that is curing, all it will do is to dry out. The best situation for curing super glue exists when trying to glue two pieces of glass together - a dab of glue on the glass and then squeeze the two pieces together and if they are both clean and free of contaminates, you will not get those two pieces apart short of breaking them. Bottom line, super glue is not as easy to use as it is advertized to be. Cheers - Dave
D W DuBois

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