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MG TD TF 1500 - TD Radiator Hoses

Test fitting the hoses that came with the car way back when. Still in great condition as I cleaned them with glycerine prior to packing them away 45 years ago. My question is, as the diameter of the branch pipe & the elbow on the thermostat housing are quite different & the short hose that connects the two isn't 'stepped', what is the correct diameter hose? Is it the same diameter as the other two & just compressed severely at the elbow? Is it somewhere in between the two pipe diameters & forced on at the branch using hot water to expand it? I do have two slightly smaller wire clamps that came with the kit suggesting that perhaps this hose was/is/should be a smaller diameter? What was the original setup? Nothing on this point in the archive. I'm thinking of using the hose of the same diameter as the other two but lining the elbow with a rubber 'spacer' to increase its diameter or is this unnecessary? Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

Peter

This link might assist:

https://www.angloparts.com/en/catalogues/group/773/mgtd-tf-waterpump#img1

I have found their diagrams are superior to other suppliers.

Graeme
G Evans

Thanks Graeme. No joy. I checked the Anglo site as I have it bookmarked. The hose clamps all have the same part number as they are part of a set, which doesn't help me. It's just possible that my branch pipe may be a bespoke item & so not be original. If so then perhaps the branch spur that connects to the thermostat elbow & the elbow, may have both originally been the same diameter, thus requiring a smaller diameter hose to connect them. This would make sense of the inclusion of the two smaller diameter wire clips. Anybody shed any light? Cheers
Peter TD 5801
P Hehir

Peter

Go to Dave Brauns TD Rebuild Web Site, Section "Engine XPAG", Image43 "Oil Pressure check with battery set up", there is a very clear image of the installed radiator hoses.

You should be able to rapidly compare what you have in your possession against a standard installation.

Thank you Dave, your imagery is very informative.

Graeme
G Evans

Peter -

Don't know if this is the same as your problem ...

BBS thread:
http://www2.mg-cars.org.uk/cgi-bin/gen5?runprog=mgbbs&access=&mode=archiveth&subject=8&subjectar=8&thread=201406170102071254

If the link doesn't work, then search for thread title:
Water Pump By-pass Hose Clamp Too Long

Lonnie
TF7211
LM Cook

Thanks Lonnie. I remember the thread when it was being discussed. The set of clamps that I got from Sportsparts were better than those you got from from Moss in that they consisted of the two large ones for the top hose, four of the same size & two that were a little smaller. I figured these were for the bypass hose. Your comment on that thread was;

'And to make it even more confusing, the by-pass hose does not fit as tightly onto the water outlet as it does to the connecting pipe. I had to massage the hose to keep if from puckering as I tightened the clamp..'

This comment makes me think that my branch pipe is correct & that the take off on the branch & the elbow are indeed different thicknesses. I've been looking at all the pics I've taken of that area on cars here over the years & it seems that all three branch pipe hoses are the same diameter & so the solution is to just do what you did & tighten the clamp on the elbow, ensuring that it doesn't pucker. So that's what I'll do. Thanks again for your detailed reply. Up to the usual Lonnie standard! Cheers
Peter TD 5801

P Hehir

This thread was discussed on 21/03/2017

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