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MG TD TF 1500 - TF Scuttle Removal

Working on the tub to TF 1414 this week. Things are moving along fine and will post photos of the progress.

I have a question regarding removal of the scuttle. I wanted to ask here since I know a few of you have done it. I have looked into the archives and Schach's book. I know it is welded and leaded but I wanted to know where to cut.

A "measure twice, cut once" before going at it.

I will post some pictures and hopefully someone can shed some light before I tackle this.

Best

Frank Cronin

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Frank Cronin

Hello Frank. I'm well into the process of totally re-conditioning a 1954 T.F. 1250 from the frame up and including the frame as well. I most willing to lend you my full support. although, I am indeed curious to know why you wish to remove the scuttle. I have enclosed my e-mail and my phone number for further communications if need be. John 18196895455
J .R.C Cavey

Thanks for the reply John.

What I need to do is remove the front quarter panel to repair rust. If I can do this without removing the entire scuttle piece would be great.

I know in order to remove the quarter panel, I need to cut the weld where it is joined to the scuttle. I was looking where the cut is done so I don't butcher the thing unnecessarily.

Frank Cronin

Hello Frank
Although not a TF but on my TD here are some close ups after heating slightly and wiping off the lead from the joint.
There was a small area of weld to ether side of the cowl at the corner of the quarter panel where both panels intersect.
Again- this is a TD I have never messed with a TF.
Regards
Hiram


Hiram Kelley

Hello Frank. The front qtr panels on my T.F. were replaced with new ones ,because both sides were extremely corroded from bottom to top . If yours are just marginally defective you may wish to replace the defective section only . This being said I'm assuming it is the lower section of the qtr panel that is corroded . Ir you have to replace the complete qtr panel then Hirman is correct . Follow his instructions and your are off to the races. If you are able to fit in just a section (with but to but MiG application ) you will save many hours of metal forming work . etc,etc. Don't hesitate to call me if you wish to pursue this further. John
J .R.C Cavey

Frank, Here's where I had to cut mine. I only needed to raise one side. Second picture shows it apart. PJ

Paul S Jennings

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Paul S Jennings

This is what makes this group great. I write a post and I see multiple helpful replies within hours.

John, Hiram, PJ, thanks a bunch. All the responses from you and the pictures are a great help.


Worked real hard today but got a lot accomplished. Focusing on repairing the rust. The good news the wood is immaculate. Nice and dry and no wood rot. I've been treating the wood with Rot Doctor CPES as I've been taking panels off to allow the product to penetrate and dry. I am really liking this stuff.

Majority of the day was focusing on repairing rust damage on the driver's side door. I will make a separate post on what was done.

Thanks again!

Frank Cronin

Hello Frank
Glad our pictures helped. I've used Rot Doctor's CPES on everything from the wood on my TD- both old and new replacement pieces- to dry rotted door and window sills on my house. Kinda expensive- but it really works.
Mix the CPES with wood flour and it makes a great wood putty for patching holes and cracks as well.
Regards
Hiram
Hiram Kelley

Some photos of the procedure for others for future reference.

Came apart to no problem.

Thanks!

Frank Cronin

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Not to bomb this thread, but is that a Pantera out there in the parking lot??

SPW
Steve Wincze

Yes 1972
Frank Cronin

Last photo.

Frank Cronin

Frank, When you put it back together a good idea is to mount the windshield brackets in place to hold everything securely before you weld the scuttle back up. PJ


Paul S Jennings

Great tip PJ I plan to use.

When I spoke to Dave Sander a while ago picking his brain on the tub, he said also said the same thing. If I recall correctly, he did say a step further to ensure the width is correct is to install the entire windshield frame on the scuttle and then nail the panels and weld the scuttle.
Frank Cronin

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