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MG TD TF 1500 - Water Outlet Elbow
I'm considering having new stainless steel water outlet elbows cast, to go with my stainless thermostat housings. Can anyone confirm that the TC and TD/TF elbows are the same? I have a vague memory that there might be a difference in angle, but can't prove it with any of the cars in the shop right now. Thanks. Tom Lange MGT Repair |
t lange |
I think your memory is correct Tom. I'm almost certain that the angle is different. Cheers Peter TD 5801 |
P Hehir |
Tom, I think you'll find that the water outlet of the TF is totally different from that of the TD/TC. TF is OEM #AEG123, TC is SA2265, TD is SA2430. Bud |
Bud Krueger |
Different anamules Tom.
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MG LaVerne |
Right - Stupid of me to add the TF to my list - I just was not thinking. The thermostat housing I make and sell fits only the earlier T-series cars. I think I will have TD elbows made, but am not sure if it is worth also making one for the TC. Tom Lange MGT Repair |
t lange |
Tom, if do make one for a TD, you might consider adding a threaded outlet on the left side, ala TF. A few of us, Jim Merz, the late gordon lawson and yours truly, have done so. Bud |
Bud Krueger |
But - wouldn't it make more sense to come from the thermostat housing, not the elbow? Tom |
t lange |
Tom, I'm not talking of design, nor practicality, just mentioning what some of us have done. Bud |
Bud Krueger |
A temperature sender is best positioned just below the thermostat, so the elbow is the ideal place for it on the LHS - then you can run the wiring along the rocker box. Here is my install on the YT. The original cast iron elbow was just thick enough (3/16")to drill & taper tap to suit the sender. If you are making them in stainless, I would think that 3/16" would be thick enough for tapping, but maybe design for 1/4" on the LHS just to be sure. No need for a pronounced external "boss" that might upset some of your market, just thicken the wall inside is my suggestion. ![]() |
A L SLATTERY |
TD and TC have different angles |
tom scott |
Tom, since you are planning to have castings made, why not provide a boss to accommodate a threaded plug or standard pipe fitting? When I modified my elbow, I brazed a standard pipe coupling in place to give me plenty of threaded area rather than just a few threads that a hole through the side wall would allow. Maybe that's an overkill but just my way of being secure.
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Jim Merz |
I think we are talking about a different elbow - I mean the elbow that screws onto the side of the thermostat housing, not the elbow to which the thermostat housing bolts. Tom Lange MGT Repair |
t lange |
Ah OK Tom. I just copied the factory design as seen on all the TFs. I just misinterpreted your words when you opened this thread. |
Jim Merz |
Tom, I don't think I've ever seen a thermostat elbow that has had any rust damage. I can't imagine a market for stainless steel ones. Bud |
Bud Krueger |
Bud, I've seen a number of them with erosion where the rubber hose is attached. Gene |
Gene Gillam |
You're right, Gene. I have seen some there. Guess I was concentrating on the mounting area. Bud |
Bud Krueger |
Off of my engine. PJ![]() |
Paul S Jennings |
I purchased a new outlet of the type shown in PJ's photo from B&G installed it, filled radiator with distilled water ready for inhibitor which I was getting in a few days time. before adding inhibitor I took the top hose off to put some stocking over the outlet end to stop crap getting into my new radiator, well when I removed the hose I was astounded to see the aluminium outlet starting to corrode already so I would be in the market for a stainless steel outlet for my TF |
G Mills |
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