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MG TD TF 1500 - Water pump rebuilds

Who is doing quality TD/TF water pump rebuilds these days? Contact info?

Thanks,

Frank
F Filangeri

Butch Taras, hands down. mgyowner@yahoo.com.

Tom Lange
MGT Repair
t lange

I’ve had a few done by Butch. His work is impeccable.
W A Chasser

I'll sure second those guys. Butch is absolutely the best. Bud
Bud Krueger

And Frank ... don't forget to get Butch to install his 6-blade impeller - a worthwhile improvement.

Gord Clark
Rockburn, Qué.
Gord Clark

I just bought one of Butch's excellent rebuilds and it has made a huge beneficial difference.

Jud
J K Chapin

If you have a standard cooling system, you should really think twice before fitting a six vane water pump, Here is why.

The pump outputs coolant into the radiator header tank, the coolant then drains through the radiator tubes by "gravity" into the lower tank.

By using a 6 vane pump instead of the standard 4 vane unit, you increase the flow rate of the pump by (in theory) 50%

If the coolant in the header tank cannot drain fast enough through the tubes, during a long run, it will completely fill the header tank and escape through the overflow pipe at the filler hole. It is easy to see, that on a long nonstop run, the cooling system will almost totally drain itself.

John
J Scragg

Hello John. I'm sorry but I disagree with you. The pump sucks coolent from the bottom of the radiator and out puts it into the front of the block where it flows thru the block and up into the head, out of the front of the head into the header tank. I have driven thru the desert into Las Vegas when the temp was 115 F. I didn't loose coolent other than my sweating. I was running a 6 blade impeller.

Butch
R Taras

Butch is correct (as usual) that the pump pushes coolant into the block, not into the radiator. The only argument you could make against an improved impeller is that increasing the flow rate reduces the amount of time the coolant spends inside the radiator, and therefore may actually decrease efficiency of cooling. But in this case the 6-vane impeller doesn't seem to come anywhere near "too much" circulation. I fitted a 6-vane impeller to my TC 15 years ago and it seemed to make a small improvement in cooling. I suspect the difference in quantity of water pushed out of the pump from 6-vane versus 4-vane is not huge.

Additionally, you would be overheating badly long before the radiator overflowed from the core being plugged up.

Butch, I bet your 115F trip through Vegas was on the same day as my trip through Valley Of Fire. We left Vegas at 4AM as I recall, but it was still 115 or so before we got through the desert. The driver and navigator were running hotter than the engine ever did.
Steve Simmons

There is a great write up with pictures of the cooling system/flow by Gene Gilliam on Bud's T-talk or somewhere. Water circulation is not what you would imagine, but makes sense after seeing Gene's photos. George
George Butz III

It's from Gene Gillam.
See http://www.ttalk.info/XPAG_Cooling_System.htm Bud
Bud Krueger

I think from memory I purchased an all bronze 6 vane impeller water pump from Butch Taras some years ago
and fitted it to the TF1500. Brilliant!

I am also pretty sure TF1500s were fitted up from the Factory with the 6 vane impeller.

Rob Grantham
Rob Grantham

This thread was discussed between 20/05/2023 and 23/05/2023

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